Tuesday, November 26, 2013

In Class Discussion/Blog Post

In Class Discussion/Blog Post

1) The most important is the article by Keith Gilliard about creative arts in schools. Creativity should be appreciated and not subdued. Everything around us is art and if it can't be appreciated then the point of school is gone.

2) The second most important change was in the article by bell hooks. This is a skill that won't be developed without practice and is necessary for after life at school and to function properly in school. This is a necessary skill that will be used in things like jobs interviews and problem solving in life.

3) The third most important was the article by Jerry Large about persevering through school and developing character. No matter how hard you struggle through school you can always get through it if you maintain a level of perseverance and effort. This is also a skill that will be effective later on in life. If the school doesn't teach this it will be hard for students to learn this especially if they don't have parents who will teach it to them.

4) The forth most important was the article by Barry Boyce. This was about remaining calm and learning how to focus. When you run into stressful times in school you can practice remaining calm and it will help get things done. This skill will benefit and build off of your perseverance.

5) The fifth most important article was the one by Deb Aronson. This article was about preventing censorship. It is important for schools to present students with all the facts.

Educate Educators on how to Properly Educate

Ranking 5 Articles

1.Du Bois: Gilyard argued that arts and humanities are equally important to math, science and social studies. I very much agree with this. People constantly say that arts are not as important as math or history simply because not asd many children or young adults are capable of artistic activities, which is not true. I believe students simply haven't been exposed to enough art or drama to develope skills in these activities. Everything we see is art and created by an artist in one way or another.
2.bell hooks: hooks describes critical thinking and the who, what , when , where, and how. He explains that at a very young age children are more prone to questioning and critically thinking about objects and circumstances and that as we age those critical thinking skills slowly diminish due to parents and "educators" frowning on them questioning the authority. I believed its very important for students and youth to develop critical thinking skills in order for our planet and society to develop and increase intellectually.
3.Jerry Large: Large explains that in order to be successful a student must gain character, and character is possible to be taught. I agree that you must have a strong personality and beliefs in order to become successful, but im not sure if you can teach a child to gain character, I'm almost positive you must teach that to yourself.
4.Barry Boyce: Boyce encourages parents to teach their children calming methods like yoga and nature walks to calm them in times of stress. I think this is very important, my an my grandpa used to meditate/pray after diner next to our fireplace every evening when i was very young and I'm sure this helped me gain the self control i have today.
5.Deb Aronson: I did not get this handout (will update when i do)

Thursday, November 21, 2013

Chalk comparison the Freire and Gatto

The movie Chalk was a "mockumentory" about high-school teachers a faculty. This movie really brought schoolteachers down to a human level. It expressed their troubles with dating, friendships, and kids.

I thought that this movie really emphasizes on  Freire's "The teacher chooses to enforce his choice and the students comply." There's a scene in the move were Mr. Stoope (the enthusiastic history teacher) wants to win the "Best Teacher of the Year Award". So he decides to make the students do things other than learn history to give him the upper hand in winning. I thought that this showed him enforcing something other than learning one the students and the students simply complied, without having another choice.

Mr. Stoope also has a humorous scene where a student in his class is using large words and making Mr. Stoope feel stupid “You use some big words I don’t understand. Use words I can understand". This is similar to Gatto's explanation of the public school system trying to make every individual into a monotonous being and to simply reduce them all to the same level.

There's a teacher named Mr. Lawry, in the film they show that he's a first year teacher and very inexperienced. His first day is awkward and monotonous, you can see that the students are clearly bored. This refers back to Gatto's explanation of boredom. “They said the work was stupid, that it made no sense, that they already knew it. They said they wanted to be doing something real, not just sitting around” This is obvious on the faces of the students in my Lawry's classroom, clear boredom because he's very inexperienced and never wanted to be a teacher in the first place.

Tuesday, November 19, 2013

Notes for Chalk

Chalk:

Comes frome a long line of teachers, explaines that is it wasnt for his teachers in high school he wouldent be what he is today

-50% of teachers quit withing the first 3 years of teaching
-Coach Web P.E. Teacher
-History teacher really monotonous and boring
"you can kiss my white ass"
-Been teaching an hour and 10 mins - Mr. Lawry
Mrs. Reddell - AP
Mr. Stoope History / Enthusiastic Goals: Sarcasm, Against it. Cleanlyness, organization, lesson plan... Teacher being taught...
Fight breaks our, AP gets involved breaks it up
P.E. Thinks everyone thins she's gay
Mr. Lawry cant control his class
AP Getting home late, affecting her relationship with her husband
Mr Lawry  compliments the P.E. teacher on her yoga, also gets his yogurt stolen
-Student was hardly late, gets yelled at by P.E. teacher
teachers seem to be against each other
P.E. teacher wants to get teachers exercising, morning walks
Mr. Lawry gets his chalk stolen, walks out
Mr. Lawry gets a book on classroom management
Mr. Stoope feels intimidated by students because they're smarter than him
Mr Lawry using humor in his teaching
Janitor drops piano
Mr Stoop lectures teachers on borrowing/ stealing
P.E. Teacher thinks other people think she's pushy
Mr. Stoope fake calls students home to teach him a lesson
Mr. Lawry teacher has weird dream about Mrs. Web
Ap asks Mr. Lawry if he's seeing anyone
Kids phone goes off in class, Mr Lawry sends him out
Teachers go out and drink together, gossip about troublesome students
Mr. Stoop is picked for runner up as teacher of the year
Mr. Lawry goes to a trouble students house and speaks to her parents, she gives him lessons on becoming a teacher
Mrs. Web tries to tell Ap how to do her job
Mr. Stoop goes all out at the teacher of the year debate, didnt win in the long run, hes pissed
Mrs Web is abrasive
AP is sick of being AP, wants to back to teaching teachers to a spelling bee of slang, he wins
Mr. Lawry asked if he wants to continue teaching, he's not sure











Gatto vs. Freire Similarities

Both Freire and Gatto have similar views on what is the proper way to school a student, and what the unproper ways are. Obviously they both disagree on the ways our schools go about teaching, they show that instead of teaching our students to become true individuals we transform them into monotonous dictionary's full of knowledge but with no clue what the knowledge really means.
 "Education must begin with the solution of the teacher-student contradiction, by reconciling the poles of the contradiction so that both are simultaneously teacher and students." - Freire. He describes that in order to teach you must be willing to be taught, instead of domination over the student as if your the only one who knows anything in the classroom.
"We could encourage the best qualities of youthfulness - curiosity, adventure, resilience, the capacity for surprising insight - simply by being more flexible about time, texts, and tests, by introducing kids to truly competent adults, and by giving each student what autonomy he or she needs in order to take a risk every now and then." -Gatto. Gatto shows that in order to educate a person you dont need to force a test or an assignment on them and have a required date for it to be completed, you simply need to show them that they are capable of completing.it and doing a good job.
I believe that Gatto and a Freire had similar beliefs about our educational system, the way things must be changed, and how we must teach our students to be individuals instead of  plain, black and white human beings. 
I guarantee Gatto and Freire would have a long, understanding debate on our educational system today if they met each other! 

Thursday, November 14, 2013

My Experience in High School Compared to Gatto's Essay

My high school experience was similar to Gatto's explanation of high school, but in a way i feel like it was more my fault then the teachers and faculty's fault. Gatto described high school as very negative and unsatisfying, I felt this way about high school but i didn't feel as if it was meant to be that way. I was very unmotivated in high school until my senior year simply because i was stuck in a rut and never tried to get out until the end of my last year.  I was fortunate enough to have a strong group of teachers that really motivated their students to excel and be the best that they could be, of course there where a few teachers that i heard rumors about who apparently didnt give a hoot about their students and simply stacked packets apon packets on them, but i was lucky enough to never register into their classes.
     Gatto described three points that he said where what our school is supposed to do but never successfully accomplishes; 
1) To make good people.
2) To make good citizens.
3) To make each person his or her personal best.

     I honestly believe that the majority of my teachers had those three points in their mind and did their bbest to successfully apply these to their students. 
    It's kinda funny thought there was actually a teacher that my older brother had in high school who was laid of for being to involved with his students. He was like 80 years old and absolutely loved teaching, but apparently he got a little to involved with his students and would have group discussions in his own home! eventually the school board found out and fired him haha, i think it was just an excuse to fire him cuz he was so ols thought.

Tuesday, November 12, 2013

What we believe the purpose of K-12 education should be Compared to what it is

What we believe the purpose of K-12 education should be:

1) To help children prosper and grow
2)To make each person his/her personal best

Why?:   Because this will help our species prosper and advance in a healthy way 


5 quotes from the text supporting that what we claim is the purpose of education and what the "true purpose" is, are two very different things:
          1. "The reason given for this enormous upheaval of family life and cultural traditions was, roughly speaking, threefold:
1) To make good people.
2) To make good citizens.
3) To make each person his or her personal best."

          2. "These goals are still trotted out today on a regular basis, and most of us accept them in one form or another as a decent definition of public education's mission, however short schools actually fall in achieving them."
         3. "The aim.. . is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized citizenry, to put down dissent and originality. That is its aim in the United States . . . and that is its aim everywhere else. " 
         4. "an educational system deliberately designed to produce mediocre intellects, to hamstring the inner life, to deny students appreciable leadership skills, and to ensure docile and incomplete citizens - all in order to render the populace "manageable.""
         5. "We don't need Karl Marx's conception of a grand warfare between the classes to see that it is in the interest of complex management, economic or political, to dumb people down, to demoralize them, to divide them from one another, and to discard them if they don't conform. "

Monday, November 11, 2013

Final Paper #2

    

Throughout my life I have had many teachers, some good some bad and a few hardly even memorable. Honestly, the hardly memorable outweigh the good and the bad. It takes a certain type of teacher to successfully reach their students and keep the lessons they taught them implemented in their memories for years to come. I believe it takes commitment, love for teaching, and a dedication to your students to be a great educator. Out of the many teachers I have had throughout my lifetime, I've chosen two particular teachers to write about, one fantastic teacher who has all the qualities of a good teacher I believe a student needs, and one very poor teacher who lacks the drive to connect with his students emotionally and educationally.



I'm first going to focus on Mr. Miranda, my old 8th grade social studies teacher. Mr. Miranda is a large, overweight man who had a big grey beard, slicked back hair, and always had a new eye catching Hawaiian shirt on. Mr. Miranda was very self-involved; he constantly set the students standards up to his standards. Using phrases like “if I can do it you can do it” without realizing that everyone has different skill levels large or small. He constantly bragged about his accomplishments and how he was able to pass any test in college without study or review, not realizing that he was setting a bad example for his 14 year old students. He also loved talking about himself, he was in love with his own image and if you disagreed with him you were always wrong; he’d dismiss you without considering your opinion first.



I can remember first stepping into his classroom; I was 14 years old and an adolescent youth who didn't give a hoot about school or academics. I can remember walking into Mr. Miranda's classroom with a swagger walk that said "I couldn't care less". Me and Miranda made eye contact and I could tell by his raised eyebrow and scowl that he wasn't looking forward to our time being spent together. I plumped my bottom on the seat closest to the back and made my posture as lousy as possible. As soon as class started, Mr. Miranda, with his scowled face and bright Hawaiian shirt that clearly didn't compliment each other, slowly raised his body out from his cramped seat and wrote his name slowly and carelessly on the whiteboard. As he did this, i took a look around the classroom, it looked ordinary enough, but there was a strange smell in the air. It smelt as if he left the trash out too long and something began to fester and rot inside. Soon after i noticed the smell i saw a few plastic zip lock bags pinned to the wall furthest from me and closest to Mr. Miranda. I raised my hand, interrupting his introduction speak about his many accomplishments and degrees. He hesitantly called on me,



 "whats in those plastic bags?" I asked,



 "It's a science project," he explained



"I'm curious of how long it takes for a school cafeteria pizza to rot"



"oh..." I  said with a puzzled look on my face



"But why are you doing science in a social study class?" I questioned, innocently.



"Now turn your books to page..." He ignored my question...



Mr. Miranda was a character for sure and a very bright man, but he was not teaching material. I eventually flunked his class, but that's not why I dislike him; It was his lousy teaching methods. The thing that bothered me the most was that he favored students. He had a few students that he would constantly call upon, whether my hand was up or not. He doubted that I or any of his less favored students had anything intelligent to say. Eventually I stopped raising my had, seeing as there was no point. As an 8th grader, only 14 years old, I required some sort of praise or satisfaction to continue trying in class and Mr. Miranda gave me neither. It wasn't long that I stopped doing homework, started sleeping in class, and eventually stopped showing up all together.



Mr. Miranda wasn’t fit to teach 8th graders, I believe that at age 14 students need teachers willing to listen and set an example. At this age students need the building blocks to prepare them for high school, they need teachers willing to go the extra mile to create a learning environment for every student, but Mr. Miranda had no drive to improve his teaching methods, he was in love with himself not the students.  I believe he lacked the drive to touch every student in a specific way and create a lasting learning experience for everyone.



              Now Mr. Frease is my favorite teacher of all time, and I'm glad that I had him my senior year of high school as a Life Long Wellness teacher.  Life Long Wellness is the perfect class for him to teach, it's a class similar to health but without all of the details of the human body In this class Mr. Frease described the difficulties in coming of age and how to deal with family, drug, and depression related stress'. Mr. Frease is around 60-65 years old, about 5'10'' and always had a smile on his face. He treated every student with respect and wasn't too hard on grading as long as he believed you were learning from the subject. We had a few paper assignments in that class, and in order for me to write about a subject I have to be emotionally involved (that's why I don't do to well on research papers), every written assignment he handed out I put my heart and soul into and I could tell he read every one thoroughly, making marks and comments where he thought necessary.



There are a few moments that really stand out in my mind about Mr. Frease, but one in particular stands above the others. A friend of mine, who I will not name, spent most of his senior year in and out of depression. His previous host family abandoned him and we adopted him into our family which was very hard for him. We spent hours talking about his life, I would try to bring him up and remind him about the positive things and would try to get him to forget the negative. But, eventually I began to get annoyed with him constantly being depressed about nearly every negative thing that came into his life, and I started being frank with him telling him to "lighten up and grow some thicker skin. I knew this wasn't helping, but I thought I had betting things going on in my life besides my brother. Eventually, after a long period of not speaking with him he came to me and told me that the thought of suicide had popped into his head. I spoke to him for a couple of hours and gave him my usual talk, but I knew this wouldn't work and that I needed to seek help. I told my friend to speak with Mr. Frease and to tell him all the things he had spilled out to me. I have a clear picture of Mr. Frease and my friend talking, it was after school and Mr. Frease had taken him on a walk, they paused on a hill and sat for a long while. The two of them spoke on that hill for more than two hours, and when they finished, I saw them laugh, hug and shake hands with a smile on both of their faces. They parted ways and my friend came to me with a look of satisfaction and said to me "Mr. Frease is right, life is always good." My bud has been happy-go-lucky ever since.



This experience showed me Mr. Frease's dedication to students, and his willingness to go out of his way just to make a lasting difference in someone’s life whether it means telling them they did well on their assignment, or saving a life. In order to be a successful teacher it takes commitment, love for teaching, and a dedication to your students and Mr. Frease had all of these qualities.

Thursday, November 7, 2013

Is there a clear thesis at the end of the intro paragraph?

What does the thesis statement indicate the paper will compare/contrast?

What are the traits or characteristics that each teacher has?

What are the examples that the writer uses to "abundantly illustrate" that each teacher had each characteristic the thesis statement refers to?

Does the paper analyze (thoroughly explain) the two teachers' styles, traits, characteristics, etc. that the thesis statement indicates it will cover?

Is the paper between 1,200 and 1,500 words?

Does the writer clearly indicate where any quotes or other outside information came from? (It must at least use signal phrases, such as According to Audre Lord, etc.)

Tuesday, November 5, 2013

Paragraph Practice

When i was 14 and an adolescent youth I was in 8th grade and didn't give a hoot about school or academics. I can remember walking into Mr. Miranda's classroom with a swagged walk that said "I couldn't care less". Me and Miranda made eye contact and i could tell by his raised eyebrow and scowl that he wasn't looking forward to our time being spent together. I plumped my bottom on the seat closest to the back and made my posture as lousy as possible. As soon as class started, Mr. Miranda, with his scowled face and bright Hawaiian shirt that clearly didn't compliment each other, slowly raised his body out from his cramped seat and wrote his name slowly and carelessly on the whiteboard. As he did this, i took a look around the classroom, it looked ordinary enough but there was a strange smell in the air. It smelt as if he left the trash out too long and something began to fester and rot inside. Soon after i noticed the smell i saw a few plastic zip lock bags pinned to the wall furthest from me and closest to Mr. Miranda. I raised my hand, interrupting his introduction speak about his many accomplishments and degrees. He hesitantly called on me,
 "whats in those plastic bags?" i asked,
 "It's a science project," he explained
"I'm curious of how long it takes for a school cafeteria pizza to rot"
"oh..." i said with a puzzled look on my face
"But why are you doing science in a social study class?" I questioned, innocently.
"Now turn your books to page..." He ignored my question...



Mr. Miranda was very self-involved; he constantly set the students standards up to his standards. Using phrases like “if I can do it you can do it” without realizing that everyone has different skill levels large or small. He constantly bragged about his accomplishments and how he was able to pass any test in college without study or review, not realizing that he was setting a bad example for his 14 year old students. He also loved talking about himself, he was in love with his own image and if you disagreed with him you were always wrong; he’d dismiss you without considering your opinion first.

Rough Draft Paper #2

    

Throughout my life I have had many teachers, some good some bad and a few hardly even memorable. Honestly, the hardly memorable outweigh the good and the bad. It takes a certain type of teacher to successfully reach their students and keep the lessons they taught them implemented in their memories for years to come. I believe it takes commitment, love for teaching, and a dedication to your students to be a great educator. Out of the many teachers I have had throughout my lifetime, I've chosen two particular teachers to write about, one fantastic teacher who has all the qualities of a good teacher I believe a student needs, and one very poor teacher who lacks the drive to connect with his students emotionally and educationally.



I'm first going to focus on Mr. Miranda, my old 8th grade social studies teacher. Mr. Miranda is a large, overweight man who had a big grey beard, slicked back hair, and always had a new eye catching Hawaiian shirt on. Mr. Miranda was very self-involved; he constantly set the students standards up to his standards. Using phrases like “if I can do it you can do it” without realizing that everyone has different skill levels large or small. He constantly bragged about his accomplishments and how he was able to pass any test in college without study or review, not realizing that he was setting a bad example for his 14 year old students. He also loved talking about himself, he was in love with his own image and if you disagreed with him you were always wrong; he’d dismiss you without considering your opinion first.



I can remember first stepping into his classroom; I was 14 years old and an adolescent youth who didn't give a hoot about school or academics. I can remember walking into Mr. Miranda's classroom with a swagger walk that said "I couldn't care less". Me and Miranda made eye contact and I could tell by his raised eyebrow and scowl that he wasn't looking forward to our time being spent together. I plumped my bottom on the seat closest to the back and made my posture as lousy as possible. As soon as class started, Mr. Miranda, with his scowled face and bright Hawaiian shirt that clearly didn't compliment each other, slowly raised his body out from his cramped seat and wrote his name slowly and carelessly on the whiteboard. As he did this, i took a look around the classroom, it looked ordinary enough, but there was a strange smell in the air. It smelt as if he left the trash out too long and something began to fester and rot inside. Soon after i noticed the smell i saw a few plastic zip lock bags pinned to the wall furthest from me and closest to Mr. Miranda. I raised my hand, interrupting his introduction speak about his many accomplishments and degrees. He hesitantly called on me,



 "whats in those plastic bags?" i asked,



 "It's a science project," he explained



"I'm curious of how long it takes for a school cafeteria pizza to rot"



"oh..." i said with a puzzled look on my face



"But why are you doing science in a social study class?" I questioned, innocently.



"Now turn your books to page..." He ignored my question...



Mr. Miranda was a character for sure and a very bright man, but he was not teaching material. I eventually flunked his class, but that's not why I dislike him; It was his lousy teaching methods. The thing that bothered me the most was that he favored students. He had a few students that he would constantly call upon, whether my hand was up or not. He doubted that I or any of his less favored students had anything intelligent to say. Eventually I stopped raising my had, seeing as there was no point. As an 8th grader, only 14 years old, I required some sort of praise or satisfaction to continue trying in class and Mr. Miranda gave me neither. It wasn't long that I stopped doing homework, started sleeping in class, and eventually stopped showing up all together.



Mr. Miranda wasn’t fit to teach 8th graders, I believe that at age 14 students need teachers willing to listen and set an example. At this age students need the building blocks to prepare them for high school, they need teachers willing to go the extra mile to create a learning environment for every student, but Mr. Miranda had no drive to improve his teaching methods, he was in love with himself not the students.  I believe he lacked the drive to touch every student in a specific way and create a lasting learning experience for everyone.



Now Mr. Frease is my favorite teacher of all time, and I'm glad that I had him my senior year of high school as a Life Long Wellness teacher.  Life Long Wellness is the perfect class for him to teach, it's a class similar to health but without all of the details of the human body In this class Mr. Frease described the difficulties in coming of age and how to deal with family, drug, and depression related stress'. Mr. Frease is around 60-65 years old, about 5'10'' and always had a smile on his face. He treated every student with respect and wasn't too hard on grading as long as he believed you were learning from the subject. We had a few paper assignments in that class, and in order for me to write about a subject I have to be emotionally involved (that's why I don't do to well on research papers), every written assignment he handed out I put my heart and soul into and I could tell he read every one thoroughly, making marks and comments where he thought necessary.



There are a few moments that really stand out in my mind about Mr. Frease, but one in particular stands above the others. A friend of mine, who I will not name, spent most of his senior year in and out of depression. His previous host family abandoned him and we adopted him into our family which was very hard for him. We spent hours talking about his life, I would try to bring him up and remind him about the positive things and would try to get him to forget the negative. But, eventually I began to get annoyed with him constantly being depressed about nearly every negative thing that came into his life, and I started being frank with him telling him to "lighten up and grow some thicker skin. I knew this wasn't helping, but I thought I had betting things going on in my life besides my brother. Eventually, after a long period of not speaking with him he came to me and told me that the thought of suicide had popped into his head. I spoke to him for a couple of hours and gave him my usual talk, but I knew this wouldn't work and that i needed to seek help. I told my friend to speak with Mr. Frease and to tell him all the things he had spilled out to me. I have a clear picture of Mr. Frease and my friend talking, it was after school and Mr. Frease had taken him on a walk, they paused on a hill and sat for a long while. The two of them spoke on that hill for more than two hours, and when they finished, I saw them laugh, hug and shake hands with a smile on both of their faces. They parted ways and my friend came to me with a look of satisfaction and said to me "Mr. Frease is right, life is always good. I'm hungry lets go home." My bud has been happy-go-lucky ever since.



This experience showed me Mr. Frease's dedication to students, and his willingness to go out of his way just to make a lasting difference in someone’s life whether it means telling them they did well on their assignment, or saving a life. In order to be a successful teacher it takes commitment, love for teaching, and a dedication to your students and Mr. Frease had all of these qualities. 

Monday, November 4, 2013

2nd Paper Thesis and 1st Paragraph

A teacher must touch each individual student in a significant way in order to made a lasting different in their students life

An educator must enjoy teaching in order to be a great teacher

I believe it takes commitment, love for teaching, and a dedication to your students to be a great educator.  

    Throughout my life I have had many teachers, some good some bad and a few hardly even memorable. Honestly, the hardly memorable outweigh the good and the bad. It takes a certain type of teacher to successfully reach their students and keep the lessons they taught them implemented in their memories for years to come. I believe it takes commitment, love for teaching, and a dedication to your students to be a great educator. Out of the many teachers I have had throughout my lifetime, I've chosen two particular teachers to wright about, one fantastic teacher who has all the qualities of a good teacher I believe a student needs, and one very poor teacher who lacks the drive to connect with his students emotionally and educationally.

Summary of my Two Teachers

I've had many good and bad teachers and even some "OK" ones, but I've narrowed my decision down to two teachers. One fantastic senior lifelong teacher and one lousy, sarcastic, 8th grade social studies teacher.
Mr. Frease was my senior lifelong teacher. I loved Mr. Frease because he cared deeply for his students and knew how to reach them individually. He taught lifelong, P.E., and weight training. I was lucky enough to have him in two of his three classes and in each class i noticed that he took great care of his students and made sure each one of them succeed in what he was trying to reach them with.
Mr. Miranda was my 8th grade Social Studies teacher, and I hated him. He was arrogant, sarcastic, hated kids (especially 8th graders), was a horrible grader, and had rotten food hung up in plastic bags all around his classroom.
That's a summary of both of the teachers ill be writing about, ill elaborate more in the paper.

Comparing Schools

 Mr .Escalante and Mr. Keating's schools are clearly very different. From their setting to the students that attend the school. I believe that Mr. Keating's school took place in New England though they don't specify, and Mr. Escalante's school took place in a very Hispanic neighborhood somewhere in San Francisco.
   The students in Mr. Escalante's class and school clearly came from in wealthy families and where never pushed to excel in school and go to college, when obviously Mr. Keating's school and students where very pressured by their families to ace their school activities and eventually be accepted into very advanced colleges and attain doctorates.
The faculty in both schools where also very different, at Mr. Escalante's school the educators had no faith low expectations for the students and never pushed them to attend college or even graduate. The teachers had poor disciplinary skills and only taught the students the basics of each course. One the complete opposite side in Mr. Keating's school all the teachers had very high expectations for the students and assumed each and every one of them would not only ace their courses but also graduate into Harvard or some other prestigious school and gain masters or doctorates. Their disciplinary actions where also very strict and controlled the students well.